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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


Having both, I find I use the 70-200 most of the time! The Mk2 upgrade is truly spectacular, and the versatility of this lens is second to none. Having said this the 200 produces some of my absolute favourites... there is something magical about it. And I find I get less OOF with my 5D2 when object is moving and I have to track, and this is with f:2 VS F:2.8!

So if I have had the 70-200 Mk2 first I probably not got the 200, but at the time my Mk1 zoom was not close to what we see from the prime. Now it boils down to one stop aperture and some very seripus PP to see if it's worth it. Cannot bring myself to sell my 200... I'm not THAT short of cash

If you only can afford one lens, get the zoom. If you need the extra stop later on, the zoom is easy to sell... much harder to go the other route.



Dec 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


dmcharg wrote:
I can't imagine using a 200 F2 or 300 F2.8 at a wedding.

I've used both at multiple weddings (~10+ w/300 and 30+ w/200) and it actually is a conversation piece. Few people feel uncomfortable.. maybe 1 in 1000 people will be *aware* of it (but not uncomfortable). Lots of good candids and fun portraits. Basically if you don't make a big deal about it, it isn't a big deal.



Dec 18, 2011 at 03:48 PM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


The cost is hard to swallow when I'm on the 1D X waiting list lol. I don't think the 200 F2 is a bad thing for weddings, in all honesty when I used the 200 F2 with Nikon I got new clients just because of it. People would literally come up to you and ask you about the lens as it was very large.

I know the Nikon F2 version would pull off photos other lenses simply could not. The Canon 135 F2 though seems so much better than its current Nikon counterpart though so it's really hard to make my mind up.



Dec 18, 2011 at 05:24 PM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


That 200mm f/2 sure is pricey. You can buy 24mm f/1.4, 35mm f/1.4, 50mm f/1.2 and 85mm f/1.2 for the price of one 200 f/2.
But I am sure that for a lot of pros it can still be easily justified.




Dec 18, 2011 at 05:53 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


sold my ver1 of 70-200 for the 200 F1.8 and it's my primary lens now


Dec 18, 2011 at 06:05 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


I have both the Nikon (heavier and poorly balanced) and the Canon 200mm f2.0. I shoot the Nikon D3s because of the 2 stop advantage but I am keeping my Canon lenses in anticipation of the 1Dx.

For those of you that have not used both of these 200 f 2.0 lenses it is not about the specs. These lenses are magic (I have one D3s that could have the 200 welded on for the few times I unmount it).
The 200mm is the first lens I pick up for portraits.

And far from being a problem people often do not notice that you are shooting them since you are farther away at 200mm. When they, inevitably, see the lens they know you are serious and take you for a pro who is not about snapshots. After all photography is expected at a wedding and you would hope to be at the top of the photographic food chain.

And, yes, I sold my Canon 300mm f2.8 because i thought the 200 f2.0 was better.



Dec 18, 2011 at 06:17 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


Yeah you can buy the 24mm 35mm, 50mm etc. None of those however are portrait lenses. The 85mm is however its focus is a little lacking. I'd honestly take the 85mm 1.8 over it any day of the week. I love that little lens.

I'm leaning more and more towards the 200 F2 but I'll be giving them both a good trial run with CPS before making my mind up.

The one thing I do like about the 200 F2 is that taking candid portraits is 1000x easier. Mainly because you are distant to the subject which makes it a lot easier for them to just forget you are there.



Dec 18, 2011 at 06:24 PM
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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


If it is only about the 200mm FL, you can also shoot candids with the 70-200II.


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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


Tough call. I don't have the 200/2 but I do have the 200/1.8. I use the 1.8 for indoor equestrian and it is invaluable. As you probably know some of those indoor arenas have horrible lighting so the extra stop really helps. Plus the ability to separate horse and rider from the background is magical.

For everything else the zoom is more than up to the task and be even be used for the equestrian events, provided you are willing to push the ISO. As others have pointed the 200/2/1.8 is made to shoot wide open and stopping it down is almost a waste.

If you can justify the price then the prime is a great lens to have in your bag. If you can only buy one then the zoom would be the choice for its versatility.



Dec 18, 2011 at 09:15 PM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


See I was also looking at the 1.8 as it's price tag is incredibly attractive. I've seen them going for 3000-3500 vs 4500-5000 for the 200mm F2.

The only things I wasn't 100% sure on though was how sharp the 1.8 compared to the 2.0 and just how fast the AF is compared to the 2.0 as well. They were big questions for me.

Equestrian indoors you are BANG on. 2.8 in most indoor arenas equates to ISO 3200.



Dec 18, 2011 at 09:22 PM
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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


It really comes down to your needs. I have both those lenses. The 70-200 gives you flexibility and great image quality. The 200F2 gives you the pin sharp and sensational bokeh and great low light shooting but with no zoom flexibility.

I shoot in festival events in very low light with one of my friends. He uses the 70-200 F2.8 ll and I use 200 F2. Whenever he looks at my images to compare, very often he shakes his head and says to me "Why do I bother" as my images appear so much better even on the camera's LCD. The difference is that big mainly because of the bokeh and the extra stop makes images sharper as a well.

Perry




Dec 18, 2011 at 09:35 PM
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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


One quasi-economical solution is the 2.8 zoom plus the 135 f/2, which is great for portraits and also takes the 1.4 extender quite well.


Dec 19, 2011 at 09:47 PM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


dolina wrote:
a) I do not notice a difference. They're both very accurate and speedy
b) if you own a 200/2 you do not bother stopping down unless you are doing group shots.
c) 200/2 melts away the background while the zoom somewhat does it.

buy the 200/2 if you need f/2.0 and the bokeh. if you do not need it stick to the 70-200/2.8 IS II

i have both lens + the version 1 of the zoom.


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Dec 20, 2011 at 03:49 AM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


stanj wrote:
In the days before the 70-200/II, the 200L got definitely a lot more action than since the mk2 zoom moved in, that's for sure. I'd say that the zoom will get you 90% there at a fraction of the cost and weight. However, for the special occasions I still bust out the prime.

I never shot the 200/2 at anything other than f2, so I can't speak to its sharpness stopped down.


I agree with this one too. Since getting the 70-200 II, I use the 2.0 a lot less. However, there are certain circumstances where the f2.0 allows me to document certain low light events without having to push the ISO too far. Love having the 280 2.8 when needed also. Would be hard to give up either of these lenses now that I have them.

When I got the 70-200 II, I did sell my 135 2.0 which I loved and sometimes miss. But you can only carry so many lenses!



Dec 20, 2011 at 03:56 AM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


SoundHound wrote:
After all photography is expected at a wedding and you would hope to be at the top of the photographic food chain.


That's one way to look at it. With the 200L you won't get Uncle Bob showing up to the wedding with the same gear! 90% chance he WILL have a 70-200L

JT



Dec 20, 2011 at 05:00 AM
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p.2 #16 · p.2 #16 · 200mm F2.0 or 70-200 F2.8 IS II


WebDog wrote:
Having both, I find I use the 70-200 most of the time! The Mk2 upgrade is truly spectacular, and the versatility of this lens is second to none. Having said this the 200 produces some of my absolute favourites... there is something magical about it. And I find I get less OOF with my 5D2 when object is moving and I have to track, and this is with f:2 VS F:2.8!

So if I have had the 70-200 Mk2 first I probably not got the 200, but at the time my Mk1 zoom was not close to what we see
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I couldn't agree more. I bought the 200/F2 first and love it. Then adding the 70-200 Mk2 I found I was using it more than the prime, but still use the prime as it has a quality I don't find in any other Canon lens I own. To WebDog's point though, the zoom is way easier to sell so I'd choose it first and then decide if you still want the prime.



Dec 20, 2011 at 02:17 PM
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