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BluesWest wrote:
+1, Robert: I agree with your sentiments completely.
Not clear to me why the 7D has been the target of so much misguided criticism, particularly with regard to noise. I've been using one since it was released and the "noise problems" are easily dealt with in post-processing. Blue sky noise, in particular, is removed in a second (literally) by using a masked NR layer.
I do agree that the photos I've seen from the 1DIV (a $4,500 camera) have superior IQ compared to photos from the 7D (a $1,500 camera). But in my opinion the IQ of the 7D is at least 80% of the 1DIV, so at 1/3 the price the 7D is a bargain!
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Funny, shortly after BrianO tried to make me out to be a son-of-a-gun, several people have all chimed in, pretty much saying what I've said. Then on top of that, imagemaster comes in and posts some absolutely amazing photography here to further solidify my point.
The 7D is an outstanding piece of equipment. While it's no D3x, 1D4 or 1DX, or even a 5D2/1Ds3 in the IQ department, it packs a hell of a punch.
Pixel Perfect wrote:
Actually are you aware there were issues especially with early builds that did require repair. My own camera was adjusted by Canon for excess graininess at low ISO and this was their own assessment; I just asked to check it out. But I've been overall very happy with the 7D and find it does much better than my 40D at high ISO an PP'ed properly is very good at lower ISO.
But I agree blanket statements made about it are ridiculous given the proof presented in countless photos. Sensible exposure and PP will yield good results.
I read about a few people on the forums having to send them in. While I've never seen a service announcement or anything like that to address any "known" issue with the camera. I'll see people who buy the camera off of the shelf like yesterday, and say that it's one of the early ones that is part of a "known" issue.
I have one that is just a few months old, and get pretty good use out of it. However, I have seen quite a few people on this forum alone that have had hardware issues. That's why when I say about people complaining about it, I include the "caveat" of hardware issue not-withstanding.
Jeff Nolten wrote:
Ok, I keep reading posts with images taken at ISO 800 or higher who claim there is no noise in their images. I don't believe it, I can find noise in 5D2 images at ISO 800. So here is an ISO 800 image of mine, the first is the full image, the second a 100% crop with default NR applied in the raw converter, and the 3rd a 100% crop of my finished image. There is noise, perhaps not bad, but noise. If you guys are getting noise free images like this then my camera is NG and has to be sent to Canon. 7D w/ 100-400.
Edit: AARG! What I'm objecting to is the claim of no noise with little or no NR at these ISOs. I believe my camera's behavior is perfectly normal. Am I wrong?...Show more →
Whoever is telling you that 800 is noiseless is just as ridiculous as someone saying it's unusable at higher ISO's.
Any sensor will deliver some noise that you can find, even at low ISO. It's just the nature of the beast. I think though, that relative noise (meaning what we've had a few years ago to now) is pretty good on it at 800.
abqnmusa wrote:
With a 7D much of your time is consumed running noise removal programs to try and save images.
I found grainy ISO 100 shots unacceptable
Just too many tiny noisy pixels crammed onto aps-c sensor
Yeah, because it takes like a whole second to do some NR to an image in the same workflow as sharpening or other adjustments.
jorkata wrote:
The 7D is one very special camera.
It’s very demanding - always requiring good exposure, lots of hand-holding, involved and committed noise reduction & sharpening, etc..
To make the story short, I couldn't take it and we broke up after just three days of ownership.
It was me, not the camera .
Good luck to those with more patience than me.
I don't even understand this statement..I don't always have "good exposure", or a lot of "hand-holding" and any committed, dedicated noise reduction or sharpening to it, and get results that work just fine.
As far was work flow, I'm damn lazy when it comes to it, and if I'm getting pleasing results...
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