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Archive 2011 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...
  
 
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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


Question for those shooting full frame (d700) that have tried both of these.

Can it be said that the 24-70 at 24mm can completely beat the old 24mm 2.8 AF prime?

My question is purely optical and not a question of size etc.

Thanks,
-Ed



Dec 05, 2011 at 04:29 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


I too am interested in this.


Dec 05, 2011 at 05:16 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


Wide open 24-70/2.8 wipes the floor with the 24/2.8 AF-D. IMHO even the older 24/2.8 AI-S is better than the D prime, despite the claim of some that the two shares the same optical formula. Sigma 24/1.8 stopped down at f2.8 is better than D prime but still far from 24-70/2.8.

If you look for a good inexpensive prime in this area 28/2 AI-S or 28/2.8 AI-S (later version with CRC) are very good performers.



Dec 05, 2011 at 06:29 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


I have both, I'll have to take a look....


Dec 05, 2011 at 06:32 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


Mishu01 wrote:
Wide open 24-70/2.8 wipes the floor with the 24/2.8 AF-D. IMHO even the older 24/2.8 AI-S is better than the D prime, despite the claim of some that the two shares the same optical formula. Sigma 24/1.8 stopped down at f2.8 is better than D prime but still far from 24-70/2.8.

If you look for a good inexpensive prime in this area 28/2 AI-S or 28/2.8 AI-S (later version with CRC) are very good performers.


The reason for this question is that I currently have the 24mm f/2.8 AF (non-D) and a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 non-BIM and I'm thinking of getting the 24-70. If it can fully replace that prime than I can sell it as I raise funds for the 24-70.



Dec 05, 2011 at 06:52 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


I know you didn't mention it, but in terms of focusing performance, the 24-70 kicks the crap out of any AF-D lens. It's scary how quickly and accurately my 24-70 focuses in near dark situations! Also, the optical quality is absolutely stellar, even wide open.






Dec 05, 2011 at 07:06 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


bortoni wrote:
The reason for this question is that I currently have the 24mm f/2.8 AF (non-D) and a Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 non-BIM and I'm thinking of getting the 24-70. If it can fully replace that prime than I can sell it as I raise funds for the 24-70.


Well, the best move is to keep Tammy, sell 24/2.8 and purchase 24/1.4. That is The Lens!



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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


I had a 24/2.8 non-D. Bought it thinking I would love it back when I was shooting a D90. Boy was I wrong. It was easily the worst lens I have ever owned and the sharpness of shots was atrocious, even at f/8. I sold it rather quickly.


Dec 05, 2011 at 07:19 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


I uploaded these pictures earlier today. You might be interested for your assessment.

Taken with the AFS 24-70mm and the D3x @ 24mm. Was a bit dark, 25 sec exposure
Full D3x image (6048x4032 resolution, ca. 9 MB)
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/140125814/original.jpg

Your question is for 24mm. Just for completeness. @62mm, 6 sec exposure

Full D3x resolution (ca. 12 MB)
http://www.pbase.com/andrease/image/140125810/original.jpg

The biggest deficiency of the AFS 24-70mm/2.8 is that it does not raise emotions like the 14-24mm or the 70-200mm VR II. It just does the job of producing great images. That's all it does.

Andy








Dec 05, 2011 at 07:59 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


bortoni wrote:
Question for those shooting full frame (d700) that have tried both of these.

Can it be said that the 24-70 at 24mm can completely beat the old 24mm 2.8 AF prime?

My question is purely optical and not a question of size etc.

Thanks,
-Ed


OMG yes! HUGE difference. I've owned both at the same time, shooting with D700.
27-70 is almost perfect... sharp, almost no CA, deep colors... about the only negative things about it are price and weight. The 24/2.8 AFD is sharp and small, and that's about it. My biggest complaint about it is that it FLARES easily. This is one of the few Nikon lenses that I would not recommend. If you need this focal length on a prime, I suggest just jumping ahead to the 35/2, which is a way better glass, IME.



Dec 05, 2011 at 08:37 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


The biggest deficiency of the AFS 24-70mm/2.8 is that it does not raise emotions like the 14-24mm or the 70-200mm VR II. It just does the job of producing great images. That's all it does.

It's a good lens but not a great lens. Definately one of my biggest workhorses for general use much like the 70-200. Thing is, the 24 1.4 and 14-24 @ 24 both shot at f/2.8 are better than the 24-70 @ 24 f/2.8.

That said, I wouldn't leave it out of my bag. It's my favorite walk-around FX lens for general use. I do wish it would get updated with VR but that's a minor gripe.



Dec 05, 2011 at 09:15 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


My context for wanting to switch is for my wedding shoots. I bought the prime from CL for a great price and I needed something wide.

Looks like the 24-70 is in my future. The Tammy is a good lens but for fast-paced, low-light, weddings it's AF is not up to the task and I don't feel that it is wide enough sometimes.

-Ed




Dec 05, 2011 at 09:22 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


The 24-70 and 70-200 are the two most useful lenses you can purchase. If the 24-70 had VR, it would be perfect.

They are very capable work horses.

Unfortunately, aside from its size and weight, there is nothing to recommend the 24/2.8 or the 20, for that matter. The 28 f/2.8 also left me wanting.

Take a deep breath and pull out the plastic for a 24-70.



Dec 06, 2011 at 05:15 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · 24mm f/2.8 AF vs 24-70 f/2.8 AF-S at 24mm...


Ya I think the last update came out about when the D3 did [or at same time] so its due but most likely won't see that update for awhile since it has nano already.

To be fair, Canon's 24-70L doesn't have IS so maybe there is some optic formula hinderance or something significantly above my pay grade as to why they can't just add it. One can still hope tho.



Dec 06, 2011 at 06:18 PM





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