p.1 #4 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss
atran wrote:
Hmm the extreme corner looks pretty good in this review at f11. I may consider this one then
It was sort of like the 25/2.8 that got a bad rap at first but stop it down to typical landscape apertures and the corners cleaned up as well. Though I'm sure this stop faster lens is more extreme in that regard. The MTF shows the 25/2 not having clean corners up to f/4 though, past that remains to be fully seen (though maybe Diglloyd touched on this already).
p.1 #5 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss
bluetsunami wrote:
It was sort of like the 25/2.8 that got a bad rap at first but stop it down to typical landscape apertures and the corners cleaned up as well. Though I'm sure this stop faster lens is more extreme in that regard. The MTF shows the 25/2 not having clean corners up to f/4 though, past that remains to be fully seen (though maybe Diglloyd touched on this already).
Also have to love the red and blues
I think stopping down for landscape is fine but I am quite worried about the diffraction kicking in that could harm reduce the contrast and make the small details go away.
Still I think it's a very good lens, physical resemblance (especially the hood) compare to the 35/1.4 is a plus
In Lloyd guide to Zeiss lens I think when I look at an aperture series, different corner sharpness result comes out from different corner, the bottom left and right corner clear up and reach very good result in the f5.6-f8 range. However the top right corner never get quite sharp even at f11. So I think the corner sharpness also depends on type of scene
p.1 #6 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss
In the last pic The reason the left edge is blurry in his photo is probably because it is significantly closer and at infinity probably not in the focal plane until f11.
p.1 #7 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss
atran wrote:
I think stopping down for landscape is fine but I am quite worried about the diffraction kicking in that could harm reduce the contrast and make the small details go away.
Still I think it's a very good lens, physical resemblance (especially the hood) compare to the 35/1.4 is a plus
In Lloyd guide to Zeiss lens I think when I look at an aperture series, different corner sharpness result comes out from different corner, the bottom left and right corner clear up and reach very good result in the f5.6-f8 range. However the top right corner never get quite sharp even at f11. So I think the corner sharpness also depends on type of scene ...Show more →
Thats due to feild cuvature I beleive. While foreground corner sharpness may be almost sharp, as shown in this review, we dont see what happens with the background as there is nothing with detail there to show in the top corners. Lloyds infinity tests showed this to be the problem area. Furthermore, you need sharp corner performance by f8 for infinity landscape stuff with 20+ mp sensors to really take advantage of the potential resolution - diffraction tends to compromise detail beyond that imho. This lens does render nicely though. It would make a great editorial/ documentary type lens.
p.1 #12 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss
I don't think so. The 35/2 is an excellent lens but the characteristics of the 35/1.4 beat it IMO. I sold my 35/2 in anticipation of picking up the 35/1.4.
p.1 #17 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss
Great samples and great lens. Very well done by Zeiss. It does - from what I can see - even dethrone the Leica R28/2.8 in pretty much all aspects, despite being one stop faster and a little wider. Wow.
A three lens setup consisting of the 25/2, 50/2 and 100/2 would be a solid trinity. (And if you are a Sony convertee top it off with the 135/1.8.)
p.1 #18 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss
I am quite sure the Zeiss is a wonderful lens. I do have severe doubts about the "review" however.
I quote:
"Although Nikon and Canon make great cameras and their new primes are really good, they still fall short of the the Zeiss. It's not about sharpness or pixels peeing but the overall picture is just so much nicer from the ZF 25. Of course this is just my opinion and you may feel totally different about this.
I do not have a direct comparison I can share with you but can only reference what I have seen on the net done by others"
ie
1. No sharpness data
2. No pixel "peeing" !!
3. Zeiss "nicer" without any actual comparison to the Canicon lenses
4. Reviewer has only seen other people's (small) Zeiss images on the net
Fabulous though I am sure the Zeiss lens is, this "review" seems a joke. Zeiss deserves better. So do we.
Now an empirical, honourable, considered comparision between the Zeiss, Nikon and Canon fast 24mm lenses would be very, very interesting. Being a 24L Mk2 owner I am very interested in the "reviewer's" assertion that the Zeiss at "5.6 and f11 this lens is leaps and bounds ahead of anything out there". I've made sharp four foot prints from the 24L Mk 2 at f8, and I await with great interest to see if the Zeiss truly, objectively, delivers so much more! BTW the Nikon equivalent is a famously good lens too. Lets see.
EDIT - the "reviewer" references an old review based on the OLD Mk1 Canon lens for his striking observations:
p.1 #19 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss
David: Jorge is somewhat of a.. I'm not sure if fanboy is the right word, but he does love his zeiss, and that does influence his writing, both on this forum and on the zeissimages site..
p.1 #20 · A collection of 25mm f2 Shots with the new zeiss
Thanks ulrikft2
I have no problem with the OP, just the "review" - I can cope with fanboism, not misrepresentations of fact.
To be clear, since 1990 I have owned Olympus 28mm f2, Nikkor 28mm f2, Nikkor 28mm f1.4, Canon 24L Mk1 and own the Canon 24L Mk2. Hopefully this demonstrates I am not a fanboi, if the Zeiss were dramatically better than my 24L Mk2 I would strongly consider a change. I love fast wide lenses, and would consider any reputable brand.
This is why sloppy, misleading reviews upset me so much. My money and time are at stake.
