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Tariq Gibran
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p.44 #1 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


The Apple Store analogy for Leica does not work unless Leica is able to offer a wider range of options at prices close to other cameras while still offering the panache and intrinsic perceived quality of the brand. Just look at the majority of Apple products and you will see that except for the Desktops, they are very price competitive for what they offer while still offering arguably superior build and design. Leica has a ways to go before they can achieve that and doing so will likely require cheaper production ie another partner. Thus Leica will have to introduce a very competitive system at a price within better reach of most before any sort of Leica Store will fly on a grand scale. The CEO of Leica has said as much regarding their need to move into other markets.




Mar 27, 2012 at 12:51 AM
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p.44 #2 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Maybe the Gucci or Bulgari or Cartier stores are a more apt comparison. Leica has the price, but not the variety of goods. Regardless it would not be surprising to learn Leica would rather sell via their own single-focus boutiques than use the retail channel *like everyone else*.


Mar 27, 2012 at 05:27 AM
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p.44 #3 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Well, even Canon is opening their own 'user experience centre' in one of the big Alberta cities at some point soon... not just for cameras, but also printers, copiers, etc., and they have been setting up stores within stores in some locations. I think any brand is to some degree frustrated by the lack of control over the independent retailers due to poor product placement or stock levels, biased store staff...

As for the Apple store model, one has to remember that Apple was in a similar situation at one time - near the cusp of irrelevance, selling what they promoted as higher end hardware, but with a limited user base. Then they shifted their focus more mainstream. It's possible we will get an idea of where Leica is heading with their May announcement, or at least by Photokina. And without doubt, for them to capitalize on the boost provided by the M9, they need to find a way to get more people interested in the brand, and that will mean more affordable options. Maybe we'll see a GXR-like camera....



Mar 27, 2012 at 08:53 AM
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p.44 #4 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


And Sony has Sony Stores, absolutely.

Whether all brand-solo stores can make a go of it over the long run is another matter.

PS: Ron did you ever make any headway with the bug you observed? I see a Ricoh CX6 firmware update *today* to fix what appears to be a red-purple half-way shutter flash of colour that seemed familiar to what you described. Others have reported similar experience on the GXR so hopefully another firmware upity-date for the GXR is coming soon.



Mar 30, 2012 at 06:09 PM
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p.44 #5 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Thanks for that update Michael, sounds promising. I haven't used the camera in about 10 days... and it was still happening then, so doubt anything has changed. BTW, love your cafe photo in the 'favourite photo of the week' thread.


Mar 30, 2012 at 09:56 PM
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p.44 #6 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


FYI: another firmware update: http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/download/firmware/gxr/

I haven't tried it yet...



Jun 26, 2012 at 10:35 PM
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p.44 #7 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


FYI in-person reports from Photokina indicate there is nothing new being talked about at the Ricoh-Pentax stand from the Ricoh side of the family.


Sep 18, 2012 at 05:28 PM
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p.44 #8 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


bummer...


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p.44 #9 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


rscheffler wrote:
FYI: another firmware update: http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/download/firmware/gxr/

I haven't tried it yet...


I did update it last month, just for the sake of it. It addresses specific issues that I didn't have anyway, but it doesn't hurt to have the latest firmware.



Sep 18, 2012 at 05:32 PM
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p.44 #10 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


michaelwatkins wrote:
FYI in-person reports from Photokina indicate there is nothing new being talked about at the Ricoh-Pentax stand from the Ricoh side of the family.


If it was going to rain, we would have seen the clouds



Sep 18, 2012 at 05:33 PM
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p.44 #11 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


In case a bit of positive news was missed elsewhere, there have been comments from Photokina attendees relaying that Pentax/Ricoh representatives have indicated there are future developments planned for GXR.

Furthermore... here is a Photokina interview posted on Youtube - a translator provides feedback, skip to 21:00 minutes for the GXR bit. Subtitles etc being added on-going. The short story: more modules planned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhD5zmJ79Fo&feature=player_embedded#!
Hat tip, DPR Forum (Anthony Mazzeri)




Sep 23, 2012 at 11:51 PM
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p.44 #12 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


edwardkaraa wrote:
I did update it last month, just for the sake of it. It addresses specific issues that I didn't have anyway, but it doesn't hurt to have the latest firmware.


Thanks for the reminder... while I was out yesterday the EVF was terribly posterized and pretty much unusable except in peaking mode 2. Hopefully the FW will address this... will try later tonight.

EDIT: did the update, but the EVF is still extremely posterized. The display on the camera though is fine... so I think the EVF is pooched. I wouldn't be surprised because I carry the camera around in a satchel and the EVF has likely been bumped many times against other items in the bag... or it's just toast. At least mode 2 still works OK. And the new FW seems to have resolved the magenta screen problem.



Sep 24, 2012 at 12:07 AM
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p.44 #13 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


That's too bad Ron.

If a new one is needed I think there is a source in Bangkok, I found them on the "cheap" there. I guess I could get you one in person next time, which is not too far away.



Sep 24, 2012 at 04:28 AM
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p.44 #14 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


kosmoskatten wrote:
That's too bad Ron.

If a new one is needed I think there is a source in Bangkok, I found them on the "cheap" there. I guess I could get you one in person next time, which is not too far away.


Coming to our part of the world soon?



Sep 24, 2012 at 07:18 AM
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p.44 #15 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Ed; that's what I am hoping, I landed a fairly large gig just around the corner from home and I am making it the last one for this year. My going on vacation is long overdue so it will be plenty of time to scout air fares. Jenny has only got two weeks off so I was hoping we (me and Jenny) could meet up in BKK or in Krabi, I would probably fly down before her and probably stay an extra week or so.

Will keep you posted on the itinerary.



Sep 24, 2012 at 08:29 AM
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