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aleksanderpolo
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p.41 #1 · p.41 #1 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


I cannot see the download link for 1.5 either, was it pulled?


Mar 15, 2012 at 02:12 PM
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p.41 #2 · p.41 #2 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


They seem not to have uploaded the 1.50 version yet. You can download the new version from the Japanese site, if you can figure out how to navigate it (knowing how to read katakana helps). It's likely they'll have it on their other websites tomorrow.

—Mitch/Bangkok
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Mar 15, 2012 at 02:21 PM
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p.41 #3 · p.41 #3 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Mitch you suggested for RPP: 30-50 for saturation and 10-30 for local contrast - I usually keep these very low, I'll see how this works. do you then edit the tiff in aperture? for high iso, how do you deal with noise? thanks.


Mar 15, 2012 at 02:30 PM
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p.41 #4 · p.41 #4 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


The 30-50 saturation was what I had to use before RPP had a profile for the GXR-M; now I almost never increase the saturation. But I do add local contrast in the 10-30 range, although you have to watch that you don't go to high.

And, yes, I then edit the tiff in Aperture. It's best to use the option "Optimize image for post-processing on Save" in the File menu. As I am not so bothered by noise, I haven't done any noise reduction.

—Mitch/Bangkok

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Mar 15, 2012 at 02:38 PM
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p.41 #5 · p.41 #5 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Do you overexpose as RPP suggests?


Mar 15, 2012 at 02:48 PM
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p.41 #6 · p.41 #6 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Yes, strange that the firmware is only on the Japanese language portion of the site... anyway, this is the link if anyone wants v. 1.50

http://www.ricoh.co.jp/dc/download/gxr/gxrm.html

BTW, you can find your way through their Japanese site pretty easily by just reading the address of the links, since they are all still in English.



Mar 15, 2012 at 03:22 PM
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p.41 #7 · p.41 #7 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Thanks for the link. I think the shot to shot time is one thing that they really need to improve on. So with raw only you can still see the image on LCD right?


Mar 15, 2012 at 03:28 PM
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p.41 #8 · p.41 #8 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


ken.vs.ryu wrote:
Do you overexpose as RPP suggests?


I basically "expose to the right" when the light does not have too much of a brightness range, which here in Thailand is rare; so, generally, in the bright light here I expose for the highlights when I can.

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Mar 15, 2012 at 03:47 PM
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p.41 #9 · p.41 #9 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


aleksanderpolo wrote:
Thanks for the link. I think the shot to shot time is one thing that they really need to improve on. So with raw only you can still see the image on LCD right?


Yes, you can still review the images, but the image review zoom for focus check is only 3.4x and it looks like it's blowing up a low rez image - lots of jagged edges. Much worse than when zooming in on Jpegs (at 9.8x).

I did an informal test and if there is improved shot to shot speed, it is very minor when shooting only RAW - in the tenths of seconds range. It still takes in the neighbourhood of 1.5-2 seconds before the camera is ready for the next shot. Not a significant improvement in my opinion to shoot RAW only since it will slow down my editing process (where I rely on the JPEGs for quick image rendering to check focus).



Mar 15, 2012 at 03:47 PM
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p.41 #10 · p.41 #10 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Thanks, looks like there is no need to switch to raw only then unless it's for space saving...


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p.41 #11 · p.41 #11 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


In the cold light of day I have to agree with Ron - the savings seems fairly minimal, and losing the better resolution for post-shot checks is a definite turn off for many.

As far as I can tell, once using a fast-enough card there are only two options you can disable that might improve shot to shot speed (other than disabling insta-chimp):

- JPG generation when shooting raw
- Noise reduction

I've not ever taken a serious look at the NR function of this camera; whatever setting I have had it on is either the default or my very first attempt at setting it up... I think I had it on an auto setting. I'm going to attempt to time shot to shot speed with either or both of these settings on disable.

Or I might not bother. With both disabled any improvement is fairly minor... but I do want to see what the effect of in camera NR is on the raw files, if any.

Edit: I thought there was a change made to focus assist in this revision due to a notation made in the PDF file which I could not link to a specific firmware update version in the web page listing of feature; I think that was just an oversight on their part or misunderstanding on mine. Mode 1 and 2 look identical to me. That said I'm going to switch to mode 1 for a while to see how that goes for me.

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Mar 15, 2012 at 04:24 PM
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p.41 #12 · p.41 #12 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Incidentally in case anyone is still searching for the downloadable firmware file, they are at the very bottom of the page I first linked:

http://www.ricoh.com/r_dc/download/firmware/gxr/



Mar 15, 2012 at 04:26 PM
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p.41 #13 · p.41 #13 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Thanks Michael.

I am not sure this upgrade will do anything for me. IF the shot to shot speed would have improved that would have been great, but as for now I don't mind the twin Jpegs, good for sorting out images before processing

/ Henrik



Mar 15, 2012 at 05:54 PM
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p.41 #14 · p.41 #14 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Colour me shocked, shocked I say, at the underwhelming enthusiasm for V1.5. After all, V1.5 is half-way to V3.0. That alone is worth celebrating.

And there is at least one earth-shattering improvement that V1.5 brings... being able to tune at 1 minute intervals the sleep and power off settings.



Mar 15, 2012 at 06:17 PM
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p.41 #15 · p.41 #15 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Wow, I wish I could like, go back in time, and like, delete my previous post, and like be all, like WOOOW, halfway there!

(chewing my bubble gum while working my Blog)

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Mar 15, 2012 at 09:55 PM
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p.41 #16 · p.41 #16 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Possible v1.50 firmware bug?

Has anyone else noticed this? Set the camera to magnified focus assist, either normal mode or 'predator' (haven't tried the peaking focus assist), make an exposure. After the exposure, the magnified image appears again. Half-press the shutter release to see the unmagnified image. At this point, the image is always with a strong magenta cast. Release and half-press again clears it. The magenta cast does not appear if an image was made while the view was not magnified. This happens to me with both the EVF and the LCD display.

I have tried pulling the battery, removing the A12 module... still happens. It's not a big deal, but definitely a new 'feature' since the firmware v1.50 update.



Mar 17, 2012 at 06:37 PM
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p.41 #17 · p.41 #17 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


That's an odd one Ron - but I'm not seeing this (either the magnified image remaining nor the magenta cast) on my camera. I wonder what could be causing it?

In the Tools menu, last entry, check Firmware version - are both camera unit and body at 1.50?

Did you upload the version from the Japanese language page? I updated my camera with 1.50 from the English language page.



Mar 17, 2012 at 09:35 PM
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p.41 #18 · p.41 #18 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


I used the update from the Japanese site. Just download from the English site, but the file zipped and unzipped is byte for byte the same size.

The firmware version report from the regular menu shows 1.50 for both body and module. The report created when holding down the - rocker and the image review button while the camera is off shows identical for both except for the MONI line, which is 1.01 for the body and 1.40 for the camera unit. The only other that isn't at 1.50 is CPU and both are 3.34.

I was on firmware version 1.40 prior to the update.

I reinstalled the firmware I had already downloaded - no change. I installed a fresh download off the English page - no change.



Mar 17, 2012 at 10:34 PM
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p.41 #19 · p.41 #19 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


Strange bug, you should email Ricoh about it. They seem eager to deal with ironing out kinks, I think they haven't anticipated anything like this.

I haven't had time to upgrade yet, I will let the 1.50 simmer on the desktop pending further investigation.



Mar 18, 2012 at 08:19 AM
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p.41 #20 · p.41 #20 · Still no love for the Ricoh GXR?


I posted this wish list item for a future firmware update on another forum. What do you think?

What I'd like to see Ricoh provide in new firmware is the equivalent of a digital "rangefinder" viewfinder, available of course only in certain cropped aspect ratios.

Imagine the following - you like to shoot the square so you've set your camera to 1:1; currently the camera blacks out all but the 1:1 square in the centre of the rectangular sensor frame.

Why not show the full image to the viewfinder but superimpose brightlines where the right and left edges of the frame should be? Then you'd gain back one of the viewfinder advantages - seeing what lies outside the "framelines" which can
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Mar 18, 2012 at 08:16 PM
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