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p.2 #1 · p.2 #1 · Pano-mania


Wow! This is one awesome thread, great idea. Carsten, those car shots are excellent. Daniel, I think I've said it a dozen times - AWESOME! Caldiar - its not that difficult. If I can do it.....

a few of my humble contributions....

ZF 35 8 shots vertical







this was either 12 or 14 shots with ZF 100







6 shots with Leica 90 Elmarit-M







same place different colors....6 shots with ZF 100







6 shots Leica 90 Elmarit-M







8 shots ZF 100







I should do panos more often...really like the results



Jun 03, 2011 at 11:44 AM
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p.2 #2 · p.2 #2 · Pano-mania


Well, we now have panos in all different sizes We should perhaps agree on a max width. It would make the thread a lot more enjoyable in the long run, I think. How about 1200? That should fit on most computers, but is a little larger than normal shots, which helps the presentation.


Jun 03, 2011 at 11:45 AM
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p.2 #3 · p.2 #3 · Pano-mania


longisland.km wrote:
early morning at Lake Louise:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2664/3902702350_02802a9ccc.jpg


Could we see that one in a bigger size somewhere? This one looks so intriguingly beautiful and serene. And I like Lake Louise.

@Daniel: Stunning panos! I think #1 is my favourite though. Did you use a GND in the last two? It looks a bit odd how the top half of the trees/mountains go dark so much (except in the middle of the frame).



Jun 03, 2011 at 11:47 AM
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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · Pano-mania


Caldiar wrote:
Some great landscape panoramas here. Don't you have trouble blending the individual shots? I never tried myself but I imagine water to be difficult since it's moving all the time. Maybe I underestimate the capabilities of the stitching softwares.

My biggest hurdle is when you have a line such as a handrail, fence, curbs, etc...
near the to the camera and in frame but have not corrected for parallax.

The secret with water is to use a longer shutter to soften things up.

I think I'm getting the urge to shoot more panos again thanks to this thread.



Jun 03, 2011 at 12:33 PM
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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · Pano-mania


carstenw wrote:
Well, we now have panos in all different sizes We should perhaps agree on a max width. It would make the thread a lot more enjoyable in the long run, I think. How about 1200? That should fit on most computers, but is a little larger than normal shots, which helps the presentation.



No.

Besides Fred already defined it. "A reasonable height and just let run off the end as needed." (paraphrased).




Jun 03, 2011 at 12:44 PM
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p.2 #6 · p.2 #6 · Pano-mania


carstenw wrote:
Kent, what kind of panoramas do you want to do, multi-row or single-row. If the latter, and if you already have anything from RRS, then I would recommend their panorama rail. I also use Autopano Pro.



I don't think rails are needed for either given current software abilities.


Here's one that's like 4 across and 6 high - all handheld with a 28mm prime:










At 100% there's no errors to be seen.



Jun 03, 2011 at 12:49 PM
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p.2 #7 · p.2 #7 · Pano-mania


These are all hand held.
A couple of them were shot on neg and stitched by hand in Shop many, many years ago.



























Jun 03, 2011 at 01:10 PM
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Bifurcator wrote:
No.

Besides Fred already defined it. "A reasonable height and just let run off the end as needed." (paraphrased).



agreed, my panos look like crap that small looking at them now. i think 800 high or more and let them run as far as they can. you can't really see any of the fine detail that makes panos special at the small sizes.

here is a 1024 pixel high one from the nikon 105mm f/2.5, let me know if it is too big... i don't have any uploaded that are 800 pixels high, which sounds more reasonably to me.







Jun 03, 2011 at 02:29 PM
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p.2 #9 · p.2 #9 · Pano-mania


that should be zero problem with good software and proper settings. just try to find any parallax error in this image. the full size image is at http://www.herbchong.com/Postings/_HEC0433a-full.jpg. there is minimal artistic merit to the image. it was taken to show parallax without a nodal slide. the leaves on the right side are easily touchable from behind the camera.

Herb...

LightShow wrote:
My biggest hurdle is when you have a line such as a handrail, fence, curbs, etc...
near the to the camera and in frame but have not corrected for parallax.









Jun 03, 2011 at 02:54 PM
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p.2 #10 · p.2 #10 · Pano-mania


Terrific responses!

The floodgates are open. It seems I'm not the only one with a long-time interest in combining images!

Panos naturally lend themselves to slightly more care or thought about the subject, so it's not surprising that the average pano might be considered more dramatic or better executed than the typical single shot. Still, the level of expertise shown here is truly striking.

If we can make this thread a clearing house of top quality panoramic imaging, along with the basics of "how-to", software, and gear, I think this could be a valuable resource (and outlet) for photographers.

There are already too many great shots to compliment each author, but special thanks to sebboh, rosti, bifurcator, and thrice. Really awe-inspiring work.

As I said at the beginning, loosely termed, any equipment used for pano is "Alt" -- I'd like to leave it open to all types of gear, even if that means a matching manufacturer body/lens combos, since the result is "out of the ordinary" useage, which is what "Alternative" really stands for.

Thanks so much for your contributions!



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p.2 #11 · p.2 #11 · Pano-mania


Gunzorro wrote:
My main question is simple: was this a 3-shot shifted pano?


Yes, with front movements only (no compensating back shift). Parallax wasn't a concern because every visible image element (the sky, each bank of windows) appeared _completely_ in at least one frame and the building itself showed no detail.

Personally, I'm always intrigued by contrasts in tone and color. The blue/blue-violet/yellow are all quite impressive. I can understand that it's not what you intended, but it makes a strong statement.

Yeah, the tonality and most of the colors are good (at least, good enough for me). When I'm looking for the best tonality and color I average multiple exposures--3 shots at ISO 100 gets you incredibly smooth images if your exposures aren't too long. 4 shots at ISO 400 gets you surprisingly good results too. More shots than that and I can't see any increase in quality.

This image is 9 shots at ISO 100 (for the building) and 4 shots at ISO 400 (for the sky). I woulda shot the sky at ISO 100 and increased the shutter speed, but a busted cable release limited me to 30 second exposures. The 30 second limit also had me stuck at f8, which gave me insufficient depth of field to get the closest elements in focus.



Jun 03, 2011 at 03:14 PM
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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · Pano-mania


Here's my only reasonable attempts so far at Pano. I'm starting out with single row for now (vertical camera orientation).

I've tried a couple handhelds yesterday ... but the lines (fence, cart path) didn't match up. I only have PS (CS3) so far, and am still unsure about which mode to use.

I've got a Manfrotto rig and leveler ... mostly to help with the cars since they'll get shot closer than horizon landscapes. Like I said ... very newbish at this point.

The first one is about 10 shots with Nikon 105/2.5 AIS. Roughly 90 degree field of view (standing near corner of fence). Manfrotto rig leveled.

Second one is about 5-6 shots with Mamyia 150/2.8 A. Ball head, eyeballed level.











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Jun 03, 2011 at 03:26 PM
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p.2 #13 · p.2 #13 · Pano-mania


Just a few recent hand held quickies. I usually use Autopano Pro but sometimes Photoshop. Great start RustyBug.












Jun 03, 2011 at 03:30 PM
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p.2 #14 · p.2 #14 · Pano-mania


Many great images!


Early Sunlight on Grand Canyon, from Yaki Point.







Jun 03, 2011 at 04:09 PM
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p.2 #15 · p.2 #15 · Pano-mania


This guy has some nice info on big panos with very high detail: http://www.maxlyons.net/idx.htm
and a nice forum as well: http://www.tawbaware.com/forum2/index.php



Jun 03, 2011 at 05:09 PM
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carstenw wrote:
Well, we now have panos in all different sizes We should perhaps agree on a max width. It would make the thread a lot more enjoyable in the long run, I think. How about 1200? That should fit on most computers, but is a little larger than normal shots, which helps the presentation.


Bifurcator wrote:
No.
Besides Fred already defined it. "A reasonable height and just let run off the end as needed." (paraphrased).


sebboh wrote:
agreed, my panos look like crap that small looking at them now. i think 800 high or more and let them run as far as they can. you can't really see any of the fine detail that makes panos special at the small sizes.

here is a 1024 pixel high one from the nikon 105mm f/2.5, let me know if it is too big... i don't have any uploaded that are 800 pixels high, which sounds more reasonably to me.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4392447924_9ce62bfa05_o.jpg


Wow! That is just magnificent! It feels like I'm right there... I can almost smell the air... Awesome!

And yeah, about 800 or 900 for a height sounds about right. Most here being into photography and all run screens at least 1200 high - I would hope.




Gunzorro wrote:
Terrific responses!

The floodgates are open. It seems I'm not the only one with a long-time interest in combining images!



Have you also played with image stacking? That's also a total hoot!

Zerene Stacker is the hot app for that! http://www.zerenesystems.com/

Very cool guy too - as I'm sure several other people here can attest to.



Jun 03, 2011 at 06:31 PM
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p.2 #17 · p.2 #17 · Pano-mania


Bifurcator wrote:
Have you also played with image stacking? That's also a total hoot!

Zerene Stacker is the hot app for that! http://www.zerenesystems.com/

Very cool guy too - as I'm sure several other people here can attest to.


DOF stacking has very little to do with panorama stitching, but Zerene stacker certainly is a cool piece of software. Much easier to use than CombineZP.



Jun 03, 2011 at 07:24 PM
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p.2 #18 · p.2 #18 · Pano-mania


Here are a couple I've taken that I thought came out well...


Garden of the Museum of African Art (Panorama) by adamtrilling


Reservoir Panorama by adamtrilling, on Flickr



Jun 03, 2011 at 07:27 PM
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p.2 #19 · p.2 #19 · Pano-mania


Here's one from Mallorca







Jun 03, 2011 at 07:48 PM
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p.2 #20 · p.2 #20 · Pano-mania


Gunzorro wrote:
giusppe -- Your work is remarkable, and I'd like to know more about your lenses and gear.

For example, the photo below from your website is so lovely and under-stated. the crisp look of the buildings, like medium format. Zeiss lens?

http://suadoni.zenfolio.com/lofoten_vesteralen_norway/e221907eb


Gunzorro, thanks for the nice words.
The pic you mention was shot with a TS-E 24L II on a 5D (classic, not mk2). It's a single shot, not a pano stitch. Some here have described this lens as having Zeiss-like rendering. I can't comment on this, since I own no Zeiss for small format, but I can tell that it's by far the best lens I've ever used.
Regarding this shot, however, there might have been some heavy pp: I can't check now, but I can remember using the "clear" picture style in DPP to fight back the thick fog.
My lens lineup for that trip is complemented by a EF 70-200/4 L IS USM. Yes, two lens total



Jun 03, 2011 at 08:20 PM
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