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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


See it's popping up more and more. Is this a fad or what?!


Jun 16, 2010 at 03:10 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


I'll only use pesticide and hormone free cameras.


Jun 16, 2010 at 03:12 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


I look to buy only free-range cameras and lenses.


Jun 16, 2010 at 03:28 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


"organic" is when mold and mildew takes over the inside of the lens or camera body sensor
gives it more of an "analog" quality to the images
not "digital"



Edited on Jun 16, 2010 at 03:32 PM · View previous versions



Jun 16, 2010 at 03:31 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


I wish someone would show some examples of this phenomenon. There's a lot of people saying the 5D is organic, the 5D2 is digital. I haven't seen the proof yet. Maybe it's just a personal "feeling," like the "3D look" term that a lot of people also use. Or maybe it's just a word people use because there's no other way to articulate what the photographer sees or thinks he/she sees in their results.


Jun 16, 2010 at 03:32 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


True that, doesn't seem to mesh well with digital media, does it?


Jun 16, 2010 at 03:32 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


Jayem1 wrote:
See it's popping up more and more. Is this a fad or what?!



Sort of like 3-D, silky bokeh, micro contrast etc... Who cares, just roll with it.



Jun 16, 2010 at 03:34 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


I know when I'm annoyed by a hot topic word, I make a thread about it. Surefire solution to see it less.


Jun 16, 2010 at 03:34 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


Enough already...


Jun 16, 2010 at 03:34 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


It's not a fad, it entered the mainstream lexicon in 2008 and stayed there. http://www.google.com/trends?q=organic


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


I hate it as well. It's a marketing buzz "word", just like HD.


Jun 16, 2010 at 03:37 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


I love the word. Reminds me of sex in the forest.

That's it. The 5D is like sex in the forest. The 5DII is like sex on a hospital bed.

Both are great, but I'd choose the forest every time.



Jun 16, 2010 at 03:44 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


chez wrote:
Sort of like 3-D, silky bokeh, micro contrast etc... Who cares, just roll with it.


I think there are many photographers on this forum that care about how their equipment can affect the quality of their photos. And some photos have qualities that are difficult to describe in obvious, unambiguous terminology and even more difficult to quantify. Hence the use of some difficult to explain "colorful" language. I just wish that when people use such terminology that they could explain it in a more useful way.

Silky bokeh is an easy one, by the way. I.E. smooth out-of-focus areas.



Jun 16, 2010 at 03:51 PM
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p.1 #14 · p.1 #14 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


The 5DII would be more like sex in The Matrix.


Jun 16, 2010 at 03:52 PM
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p.1 #15 · p.1 #15 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


surf monkey wrote:
I think there are many photographers on this forum that care about how their equipment can affect the quality of their photos. And some photos have qualities that are difficult to describe in obvious, unambiguous terminology and even more difficult to quantify. Hence the use of some difficult to explain "colorful" language. I just wish that when people use such terminology that they could explain it in a more useful way.

Silky bokeh is an easy one, by the way. I.E. smooth out-of-focus areas.


Indeed. Furthermore, "micro-contrast" is an objective, measurable term. Somebody didn't just make that shit up. It is also referred to as "local contrast" and it is exactly what you are modifying when you adjust the "clarity" slider (or similar) in your RAW app. The "3D" aspect is a combination of many things; some measurable, some more subjective. None of it is BS.

It's like all the terms people use to discuss wine. Until you really make an effort, it all sounds like BS. I know for a fact that it isn't, just like I know that these so-called "colorful terms" are not BS either. Just because one doesn't understand something does not necessarily mean it is BS.

Many people do care to use these terms, because they do convey meaning. What else is language for? So either learn what the terms mean or just "roll with it". Complaining about the words or rejecting them entirely has no effect on what meaning they convey for those who use them.

As an example, I know for a fact that I can use the following terms to discuss bokeh in the Alternative forum and 90% of the photographers there will know exactly what I mean:

- Smooth (creamy, buttery, etc.)
- Charged (nervous, electrified, edgy, etc.)
- Funky (bubbly, wacky, etc.)
- Swirly (twirly, spinny, etc.)
- Ugly (fugly, dizzy, distracting, etc.)

These terms do have meaning, whether anyone likes them or not. Those who would express their annoyance with these terms would only be displaying their ignorance.


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Jun 16, 2010 at 04:02 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


jeremy_clay wrote:
I know when I'm annoyed by a hot topic word, I make a thread about it. Surefire solution to see it less.



!



Jun 16, 2010 at 04:04 PM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


jeremy_clay wrote:
I know when I'm annoyed by a hot topic word, I make a thread about it. Surefire solution to see it less.


What word? "Organic"? Yeah, "organic" is way overused. I wish people wouldn't apply "organic" to everything. Would be great to not see a discussion of image quality without "organic" coming up. Really want to see "organic" just die since it's so tiresome to see the word "organic" all the time.

Yes, I'm childish.

But really, if it's not free-range, grain-fed, and cruelty-free I'm not touching it.



Jun 16, 2010 at 04:09 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


It's not as annoying as "minty"


Jun 16, 2010 at 04:15 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


So... organic = sex with your cam

Crazy forum



Jun 16, 2010 at 04:25 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · The word 'Organic' is really annoying!


jeremy_clay wrote:
The 5DII would be more like sex in The Matrix.


Not really getting the sex analogy. I like photography, but...

And I'm not really sure what you're saying.
Sex with Trinity in the Matrix sounds better than most people's real sex life, but maybe you do it with a freaky supermodel.



Jun 16, 2010 at 04:33 PM
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